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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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H arxi tis isodynamias telika paraviazetai se orismenes proipothesis.
fysikos nomos poy paraviazetai den theorite fysikos nomos.
O Galileos itan lathos!
Opote prepei na graftei NEA FYSIKH apo tin arxi.

Oriste ti egrapse i idia i NASA:

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http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/18may_equivalenceprinciple.htm?list991948



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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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NASA Science News for May 18, 2007


In the folklore of physics, no story is better known than the tale of Galileo dropping balls from the Leaning Tower of Pisa and proving that gravity accelerates all objects equally regardless of their masses or composition. This is called the "equivalence principle," and it is a cornerstone of modern physics. But was Galileo correct?
Fantastically small violations of the equivalence principle may in fact exist, providing a test of string theory and pointing the way to an all-encompassing Theory of Everything.


FULL STORY at

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/18may_equivalenceprinciple.htm?list991948



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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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Ston kosmo tis fysikis, kamia istoria den einai toso gnosti oso i istoria toy Galilaioy na rihnei sfaires apo tin koryfi toy kyrtoy pyrgoy tis Pizas gia na apodeiksei oti i barytita epitahynei ola ta antikeimena ston idio bathmo aneksartita apo ti maza i ti systasi toys.


Ayto onomazetai «arhi tis isodynamias» kai einai enas themelios lithos tis monternas fysikis.


Alla itan telika sostos o Galilaios;


Fantastikes mikres parabiaseis tis arhis tis isodynamias mporei pragmati na symbainoyn, parehontas mia dokimastiki basi tis theorias ton yperhordon kai orizontas ton dromo gia mia perikleioysa oles tis dynameis theoria ton panton!



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C.A. TSOLKAS

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.......kai se ayto tha dikaiotho na eisai bebaios 100%.



http://www.tsolkas.gr/greek/ergasia1/barytikh-4/barytikh-4.html



Christos  A.  Tsolkas

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Vagelford

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Malista... kai h kbantomhxanikh einai la8os e?

Heisenberg is wrong loipon.

Den ksero an exete ypopsin sas ena fainomeno poy onomazete skedash Bragg. Pi8anon na mhn to exete.
Oi fysikoi pantos sigoyra to exoyn, afoy einai ena apo ta stoixeiodh peiramata poy ginonte sta plaisia enos ergasthrioy fysikhs stereas katastashs kai exei os stoxo na melethsei thn domh toy krystalikoy plegmatos me thn boh8eia peri8lashs hlektronion.
Me apla logia, mpori na mhn exo dei ti ginete me netronia kai protonia, alla den yparxei fysikos poy na mhn exei dei sto ergasthrio peri8lash hlektronion toylaxiston mia fora.

Isos an kanate mia episkepsh se kapoio ergasthrio, na bepate kai eseis.
H olh idea piso apo thn peiramatikh fysikh einai na ekteleis telika to peirama kai na blepeis to apotelesma. Isos einai kapos bary na to xonepsei kanenas ayto, alla distixos etsi einai.   

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C.A TSOLKAS

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Kyrie Giorgo Pappa (Vagelford) xerete ti moy 8ymizete?

Edo erxete "tsoynami" sth fysikh kai eseis paizete tabli me to Bragg sth paralia pinontas to frapedaki sas !!!!

...kai kati allo:

Ean soy doso ego didaktoriko na xereis eisai fysikos.
Ean omos soy dosei to Panepistimio Athhnon (to 508 se seira pagosmios epi synoloy 520 Panepisthmoon, tote pare ayto to didaktoriko gia na tyligeis patates....!!!!!

Kala th skedash Bragg th katalabes, toso dyskolo einai na katalabeis kai to "TETRAPLO PEIRAMA" poy dibases ?



C.A TSOLKAS



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ekorompili

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Kyrie Tsolka,
aneksartita apo tin seira katataksis, to Panepistimio Athinwn eksakolouthei na einai Panepistimio. An den sas ikanopoiei synolika loipon o thesmos toy Panepistimiou, nomizw tha eprepe na kanete mia aitisi sto elliniko kratos kai na zitateapo edv kai pera h didaskalia tis fysikis se anvtato epipedo na ginetai sto xwl tou spitiou sas, h ereuna stin kouzina kai h teleti aponomis titlwn sto saloni sas.
Kali epityxia sto dyskolo ergo sas.
E. Korompili

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Δημητρης

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Dhmhtrhs

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To arthro sto opoio parapempei 'O Aitheras epistrefei' anaferei thn PITHANOTHTA mias elaxisths paraviashs ths arxhs ths isodynamias. Afoy h episthmh (se antithesh me ton Tsolka) bgazei ta sumperasmata ths vasei peiramatwn kai ola ta peiramata exoun mia dedomenh akriveia, panta tha uparxoun dekadika yhfia sta opoia mia opoiadhpote arxh mporei na paraviazetai.

To gegonos kai mono oti 'O Aitheras epistrefei' epixairei gia mia aplh episthmologikh koinotopia, mh exontas katalavei kan peri tinos prokeitai, deixnei toso thn episthmonikh tou katartish oso kai thn anagnwstikh tou ikanothta.

Kati akoma: Akoma kai an anakaluptame mikres paraviaseis ths arxhs ths isodynamias, auto se kamia periptwsh de tha sunhgorouse uper twn anohsiwn toy Tsolka, oi opoies de vasizontai se tipota para mono sto eswteriko tou kraniou tou.

Dhmhtrhs

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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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mias elaxisths paraviashs ... monos soy to eipes alla den to katalaves.
Paraviash se fysiko nomo katalavaineis ti simainei?
Ti simasia exei an einai mikrh h megali?
Simasia exei oti simvainei. Kai prepei na graftei nea fysikh.
O Aitheras i pemptoysia toy aristoteli epistrefei gia na mpalosei th skoteinh ylh. H arxh ths isodynamias paraviazetai. O galileos eixe adiko.
Poly kala sas kanei kai sas krazei o Tsolkas. Edw erxetai tyfwnas sti fysikh kai eseis koimaste ton ypno ton vathi. Alla tetoio myalo koyvalate....
volemenoi ...

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jk423

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Den vare8ikate na lete ta idia kai ta idia? blankstare

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Dhmhtrhs

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Apokleietai na exeis toso meiwmenh antilhyh kai mallon plaka kaneis, alla as sou to 3anapw.

To arthro DE LEEI OTI *SUMVAINEI* h paraviash. Leei oti, *AN SUMVAINEI*, tha einai *MIKROTERH* apo ena sugkekrimeno *KATWFLI* pou einai h akriveia twn mexri shmera peiramatwn.


Suneidhtopoihses twra oti les xazomares h tha milas akoma gia paraviaseis ;

Dhmhtrhs

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STAYROYLA

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Dimitri boreis se parakalw na mas peis ti leei h arxh ths isidynamias (h asthenhs kai h isxyrh)?

STAYROYLA , deyteroeths physikoy Athinwn

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mits

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B.Schutz - A first course in general relativity (Cambridge University Press)


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Dhmhtrhs

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Perilhptika, h as0enhs arxh ths isodunamias leei oti h varutikh kai h adraneiakh maza eina isodunames. Me alla logia, se dedomeno varutiko pedio, ka0e swma me dedomenh arxikh 0esh kai taxuthta peftei me ton idio tropo (0ewrwntas oti den einai ogkwdes wste na ufistatai palirroika fainomena kai den exei arketa megalh maza wste na paragei shmantiko varutiko pedio).

H isxurh arxh ths isodunamias leei oti ka0e topiko peirama se adraneiako susthma anaforas dinei ta idia apotelesmata, asxetws ths upar3hs varutikou pediou h mh. Me alla logia, eite to peirama to kanoume sto axanes diasthma apousia varutikou pediou, eite se eleu0erh ptwsh panw apo thn epifaneia ths ghs, 0a parathrhsoume ta idia apotelesmata.

Profanws h isxurh arxh emperiexei kai thn as0enh, an 0ewrhsoume ena peirama mesa se kleisto 0alamo opou afhnoume eleu0ero ston aera ena opoiodhpote swma.

Gia perissoteres leptomereies des

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle

Dhmhtrhs

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Vagelford

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Stavroyla, mporeis na lyseis tetoies sxetikes apories soy rotontas toys daskaloys soy. Epishs mporeis na apey8in8eis s'aytoys na soy protinoyn bibliografia gia na diabaseis kai monh soy.
O k. Apostolatos gia paradeigma, sigoyra 8a se boh8hsei me megalh eyxaristish.

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STAYROYLA

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se eyxaristw Vagelford, ayto tha kanw gia na katalabw thn arxh ths isodynamias.

Dimitri, se eyxaristw, alla.....


stayroyla

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mas-ta-prixes(ornio)

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Pera pou arxises na apantas kai epwnyma ston kosmo mpas kai sovarepsei to yfos sou, pisteyeis oti eisai kai ikanos na dwseis esy didaktoriko gia na mathei o allos oti einai epistimonas...

san na xoume ksefygei ligaki..

A, kai nai, palia h methodos tou na prospatheis na apaksiwseis ton antipalo sou gia na peiseis gia ti thesh sou, asxeto an o antipalos sou einai panepistimio pou sou kanei tin timh(kapoioi ap ta melh tou) na asxoleitai mazi sou k me tis fantasiwseis sou...
(btw, kapoioi ap ta melh tou asxolountai mazi sou, giati tous stelneis spam me tis mlkies sou, kai giati kapote egrafes ston pinaka tous proklitika, oxi giati exoun basi auta pou les...)

Pigene pes ta se kana Stanford h kana MIT, tha sou dwsoun edra kateytheian na ta didakseis.


ante geia...

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mits

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Opos diabasa se ena allo forum:

Pote min ta bazeis me ena ilithio, tha se katebasei sto epipedo toy kai tha se nikisei logo empeirias.

Den ftaiei o Tsolkas (o opoios einai idiaitera diaskedastikos) alla aytoi poy  prospathoyn na ton peisoyn oti kanei  lathos.

Prosopika theoro oti to pio asteio stis theories toy einai i mathimatiki toys polyplokotita einai se epipedo dimotikoy.

Pantos tha ithela tis apopseis sas gia to fainomeno tis ekriksis tis paraepistimis kai tis mpourdologias ta teleytaia xronia, par 'oli tin apisteyti proodo tis epistimis kai tin eykolia prosbasis se ayti meso toy internet.


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Κωνσταντίνος

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Re paidia mporei na mou pei kapoios ti exei kanei autos o Tsolkas;;
Einai se kapoio Panepistimio kai ton afinoun na dinei Didaktorika diplomata etsi;;
Kai ti 'isxi' tha exoun apo ti stigmi pou ta mathimatika pou tha xrisimopoiei o didaktorikos tha nai epipedou Dimotikou;
Ego tha ntrepomoun na koitakso tous allous sta matia an epairna didaktoriko s' auton.

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jk423

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LoL!
bleh
Didaktorika pairnoun mono kati atoma san ton einstein k thn familia toy, poy dn afhnoyn tous ypoloipous pragmatikous episthmones na apokalipsoun thn pragmatikh ali8eia ston ypoloipo kosmo.
Opws katalavaineis.. o tsolkas antiproswpeuei th 2h omada!
yawn



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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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O tsolkas einai megalos episthmonas.
Kai oloi eseis poy ton koroideyete simera ayrio tha to metaniosete.
Simera i NASA ton dikaiose gia ton galileo.
Menoyn kai ta apotelesmata toy gravityprobe-b gia na ton dikaiosoyn kai gia ton allo paramitha ton ainstain poy oyte kai aytos skampanize apo mathimatika. (o karatheodori toy ta elyne)


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mits

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Na fantasteis oti o Einstein den psonize pote xoris ton karatheodori giati ton klebane sta resta!!!!

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C.A TSOLKAS

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O Aitheras Epistrefei, egrapse:

O tsolkas einai megalos episthmonas.
Kai oloi eseis poy ton koroideyete simera ayrio tha to metaniosete.
Simera i NASA ton dikaiose gia ton galileo.
Menoyn kai ta apotelesmata toy gravityprobe-b gia na ton dikaiosoyn kai gia ton allo paramitha ton ainstain poy oyte kai aytos skampanize apo mathimatika. (o karatheodori toy ta elyne)

Agapite file,

Se liges hmeres tha anebaso to V Meros ths Electrogrvitational  Theory (dhladh, tha toys "petaxw ta myala sta kagela"), se oles aytes tis koyfales toys Relativistes, k.l.p.....
Ayto to V meros tha to afierwsw se esena "timhs eneken" kai se eyxaristw poly gia ta kala soy logia.

Me ektimhsh,

C.A. TSOLKAS



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Lipon an o Tsolkas ixe apodiksi sosta afta pou leei tote apla i arnitiki kritiki de tha mporouse na gini.An tora exi lathi sta mathimatika na paei prota na ta diorthosi kai meta na ta ksanaparousiasi.
 De tha prepi na iparxi proklitiko pneuma pano apo ola giati tha asxolite o kathenas me prosopikees diamaxes kai oxi me tin ousia.
Episis min ksexnae oti akomi kai an kapios den exi ptixio afto den ton kani anikano.An omos theli apla na amfisvitisi gia na amfisviti afto ton kani xasimo xronou.
 Den ine liges ekines oi fores pou entelos asxetoi apo tin EPISIMI epistimi ekanan simantikes allages.Isos athela tous na SKONTAPSAN stin alithia.Den prepi na ta katakrinoume ola.
 Kai kati allo...diavaste gia tin istoria tis epistimis.Den mporei na iparxi sostos epistimonas pou na min tin gnorizi, allios ine enas texnokratis pou to mono pou mpori na kani ine na didaksi to texniko kommati stous allous epistimones.Kapios tetios stis meres mas omos den mpori na katigorithi afou de fteei aftos mono alla i kinonia, prepi omos na prospathisi.

 O marconi katafere na stili radiofonika miimata se megali apostasi mono kai mono epidi den iksere kala tous nomous tou ilektromagnitismou!!O Poincare pou epeze sta daxtila tous nomous ixe apodiksi oti den ginontan iperatlantiki metadosi radiokimaton...omos tote den ixe anakalifthi i ionosphera.Kai oi dio ixan dikio! An den ipirxe i ionosfera de tha mporousan na metadothoun ta kimata toso makria.An omos o Marconi iksere kala tous nomous de tha to dokimaze kai de tha ta kataferne pote.
 Opos lene an enas laos (kai i epistimi apoteli ena ethnos apo moni tis kata ti gnomi mou) de gnorizi tin istoria tou ine anagkasmenos na tin ksanazisi.Kati pou mpori na epalitheusi opios kseri esto ta istorika gegonota kai oxi istoria.
 Ena poli oreo vivlio pou diavazo afto ton kairo ine tou Federico Di Trocchio, Alloparmenes megalofiies, ekdosis TRAYLOS.
Ine pragmatika poli oreo kai an kapios apo edo to ixe diavasei tha katalavene amesos me ti periptosi sexoume na kanoume....

 
Ante kourastika me ola afta kai tora pou tha pao sto fisiko mono kai den kseroun oi kathigites istoria..de tha tous lipitho na to thimountebleh

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Ligo metro re...

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O Aitheras Epistrefei

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File someone, poly sosta ta osa grafeis.
Polloi apaxionoyn osoys den exoyn ta ptyxia kai toys megaloys didaktorikoys titloys alla telika aytoi poy den exoyn ta "xartia" aytoi poy allazoyn syxna kai tin istoria.
Oi aderfoi rait mixanikoi podhlatwn xoris kanena varygdoypo akadimaiko titlo sta xeria toys, entelws kontra sto tote episthmoniko katesthmeno to opoio evgene se egrita episthmonika periodika me pompodeis titloys na diagelei oti einai adynaton mathimatikws kai fysikws na epiteyxthei ptisi me mixani varyterh toy aera!!
Oi aderfoi rait adiaforisan teleiws proxorisan sto dromo toys kai allaxan thn istoria..
Na fantastite oti konteyan na kanoyn tis protes pthseis yperatlantikes kai akoma orismenoi kollhmenoi ""fosthres"" akadhmaikoi den pisteyan oti kataskeyastikan aeroplana kai nomizan oti to olo skhniko einai apati!!!

Mia akoma paromoia istoria ektos apo ayti poy anaferes einai kai i istoria toy levitron tis siskeyhs aiwrisis-mimisis antivaritikwn fainomenon.
O Mathimatikos earnshaw diarignie ta imatia toy apo ton 19o aiwna me to gnosto theorima earnshaw legontas oti einai adynaton na epiteyxthei anypsosi xrisimopoiontas mono 2 monimoys magnites.
Enas erasitexnis omos efeyretis th dekaetia toy 1980-1990 o Harrigan o opoios eixe egatalypsei to kolegio, kai asxoloyntan me efeyreseis egrapse sta palia twn ypodymatwn toy ton Earnshaw kathws kai oloys toys fysikoys kai episthmones filoys toy poy toy elegan oti xanei ton xrono toy, kai kathise kai kataskeyase to levitron to opoio kai telika aiwrhthike xrisimopoiontas mono 2 monimoys magnites kai simera vriskei efarmogi sth viomixania paixnidiwn me prooptikes efarmoghs sto mikrokosmo kai ti nanotexnologia!!
Ayta einai pathimata-mathimata tis istoria tis episthmhs apo ta opoia tha prepei na didaskontai oi "fostires" episthmones me toys varygdoypoys akadhmaikoys titloys.
Alla dysthxos otan yparxei dogmatismos ayta symvainoyn kai tipota den prokeitai na allaxei, apla i istoria tha epanalamvanetai kai panta tha yparxoyn oi "airetikoi" san ton tsolka kai panta oi kollhmenoi "fosthres" me toys varygdoypoys akadhmaikoys titloys poy tha lene oti an o theos ithele ton anthropo na petaei tha toy edine ftera.............. k.tsolka, pisteyo oti to ergo kai oi theseis sas kapoia stigmh tha dikaiothoyn kai idi arxizei na ginetai ayto.. agnoiste epeidiktika toys ""fostires"" kai sinexiste akathektos to dromo sas.

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mits wrote:

Na fantasteis oti o Einstein den psonize pote xoris ton karatheodori giati ton klebane sta resta!!!!

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 axaxaxaxa TELIO!!!

To ebala mnm sto MSN. lol


 

Ligo asxeto alla mipos mpori na mou ipodiksi kapios pos ipothetoume oti tha antidroune ta gravitonia me tin ipolipi ilh se periptosi pou iparxoun kai an afta tha dexonte tis ipolipes dinameis?



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http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Tsolkas to exete dei afto?biggrin

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